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Sunday, December 21, 2008  |  25 Comments [ View ]

Immigration reform -- or enforcement

By ROBERT WREN

The Utah Legislature's Interim Immigration Committee will finish its series of hearings designed to discuss and consider issues concerning unauthorized or illegal immigrants in the State of Utah. Apparently efforts are being launched to further weaken, or repeal, the omnibus immigration bill SB 81, which offers some reasonable solutions toward enforcement of existing federal immigration law.

Let's review a few recent happenings in the immigration news. Last week, a study was released by FAIR on the cost to taxpayers for our neighbors in Colorado. That cost is estimated at approximately $1.1 billion annually.

The Texas Legislature also issued a report declaring that health care, alone, of illegal residents of Texas "cost the Texas government (meaning taxpayers) and local hospital districts $678 million in a year." (Fort Worth Star Telegram).

Locally, Kraftmaid laid off 813 in Utah, Bally's closed, Rio Tinto (Kennecott) announced layoffs, construction employment is reported down in Utah by the thousands. Nationally, unemployment claims are increasing.

On the legal front, an appeals court in California declared instate tuition for illegal aliens unconstitutional and decreed all U.S. citizens paying non-resident tuition should have the difference refunded. Based on residency/school attendance, the California law is similar to the Utah law. There were many warnings given that this concept was in violation of federal law.

Utah will continue to be subject to tremendous potential liability for millions of tax (education) dollars to those paying non-resident tuition.

The crux of that federal law is "an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a state (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident."

From Arizona, in October, the Maricopa County Attorney released a report which stated "an analysis of all defendants sentenced for felonies in 2007 in Maricopa County Superior Court shows 18.7 percent to be in the United states illegally." It further reports that illegal immigrants account for 9 percent of the total population but 16 percent of violent crimes, 18 percent of property crimes, 33 percent of drug crimes and 85 percent of criminal impersonation or false ID and 96 percent of human smuggling.

There are effectively two predominant federal laws concerning immigration that Utah has trouble complying with. First, it is unlawful to EMPLOY an illegal alien. (US Code Title 8, sec 1324a) Second, it is unlawful to aid, abet or encourage an alien to reside on this country (US Code Title 8, sec 1324).

Immigration Reform (amnesty) may be forthcoming from the federal government. Hopefully, enforcement and economics may cause some reduction in numbers before that happens. If we choose to attempt the guest worker route, we should at least encourage a resolution of the birthright citizenship fallacy. Most countries require at least one citizen parent.

A national guest worker program for new workers may a better choice than amnesty (or sale of U.S. citizenship to those who have successfully evaded the law) but it, too, could reward illegal action and behavior. A timely implementation of a strengthened SB 81 will assist in attrition through enforcement and help to balance Utah's budget and lower tax burdens.

Robert Wren, who lives in Heber City, is chairman of UFIRE, Utahns for Immigration Reform and Enforcement.





 25 Comments

By: j bishop @ 01/08/2009, 3:09 PM

Oh, and Pancho is right. E-Verify IS discriminatory against illegal immigrants. That's what it was designed for.

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By: j bishop @ 01/08/2009, 2:52 PM

The elementary schools on the west side of Salt Lake City are 99% Hispanic now. Two thirds of these students are either illegals or their parents are. The next time you are asked to pay more taxes for a failing educational system ask your representatives why.

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By: PrincessMe @ 12/29/2008, 9:55 AM

*ahem*

I believe it actually says that there are criminal penalties for any individual who "encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law."

So...

It IS unlawful for you to bring any ILLEGAL alien into our country, Pancho. Your friends who want to be actual citizens are welcome. They made it perfectly clear in the code, you just didn't bother to read the whole thing.

Good day to you, sir.

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By: Pancho Pantera @ 12/24/2008, 2:19 PM

Hernandez, get your facts straight.
If "E-verify does not discriminate against RACE, Religion, SEX or physically capability only your Citizenship and your LEGAL right to be and work in United States" why is it something that first is voulntary, meaning, if someone decides that someone is suspicious based on ethnic background, for example, they "can check the work status of new hires online by comparing information from an employee's I-9 form against SSA and Department of Homeland Security databases." (http://www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/programs/gc_1185221678150.shtm)

that means that it's only targeting immigrants. Do they make sure everyone gets through E-verify? No, so it IS discriminatory.

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By: Pancho Pantera @ 12/24/2008, 2:13 PM

Hernandez,

The only reason why natives from the USA don't have to concede you and your ancestors an amnesty is because they are not the ethnic group with the most power in the game, but they would be the ones that should be deciding who stays when it comes to rights.

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By: Pancho Pantera @ 12/24/2008, 2:11 PM

sheron, you are dreaming. Spanish was spoken in what is now the US way before it became the US. English is only one of the hundreds of languages spoken in the world. What makes you think it's the only one that should prevail?
History is the one making the decisions. If a high percentage of the population speaks Spanish, it's blindness not to consider it as a second official language just as Canada considers both, French and English.

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By: Pancho Pantera @ 12/24/2008, 2:05 PM

"it is unlawful to aid, abet or encourage an alien to reside on this country (US Code Title 8, sec 1324)."

If this is true, if I am a citizen of the US and I want some fellow from outside the US to immigrate, that is unlawful.

That's as dumb as it gets. Now you cannot even invite someone from another country to immigrate. If I would encourage them to come illegally, I agree that should be unlawful, but just encouraging them to immigrate should not be unlawful. If that was a typo, publish a clarification. If not, that's as anticonstitutional as it could get.

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By: spacely @ 12/23/2008, 10:49 PM

Just for the record, I wouldtake them all an put them into the boats left over from the 1980's and send them to cambodia and Loas. Now that's imigration at it's finist. Send mexican to south east aisa in their own boats!

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By: spacely @ 12/23/2008, 10:07 PM

People, come on! Mr Monson is a care individual. I think that we should embrace him. And we should allow him to go right to the front of the line for president elect Obama's wealth redistribution plan to pay for all these blood sucking leaches who enjoy better health care than we do!

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By: valerie @ 12/23/2008, 8:49 PM

you have people here working paying there tax and cant get a chance you have a lot of different catigory not only mexican.i agree for them to learn english.but if every one of those illegals pay a fine of 1000 dollars this great country will be back on the road to recovery.

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By: valerie @ 12/23/2008, 8:44 PM

what about those perrsons who came here on visas and over stay thay are not illegals thay are out of status you cant classifie every body as fence jumpers come on think wisely.

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By: mike-usa @ 12/23/2008, 6:44 PM

i think illegal immigrants who have been in this country for 10 years or more and have children born here must get a chance to legalized their status. its fair enough.

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By: sheron @ 12/23/2008, 5:43 PM

Keep up the good work in telling it like it is which politicians on national, state & local issues don't seem to have the courage to do. We can't have a country without borders and can't communicate effectively if we don't speak the same language. Let sanity prevail. Maybe someday we won't have to push "1" for English!

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By: zsa04 @ 12/23/2008, 11:37 AM

There seems to be some argument as to whether the article contains information relevant to Utah. With that in mind, I offer the following tidbit of information:

In 2006, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimated that Utah taxpayers are currently burdened with annual costs of about $244 million because of illegal aliens residing in the state. That estimate was based only on expenditures for education, emergency medical care, and incarceration.

You can read more on the costs of illegal immigration to Utahns and find more data on illegal immigration by following this link: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_researchd99f

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By: HernandezUSA @ 12/23/2008, 8:04 AM

"We need the SAVE ACT and E-verify used for every business and NOT Amnesty. E-verify does not discriminate against RACE, Religion, SEX or physically capability only your Citizenship and your LEGAL right to be and work in United States. If we can stop Predatory business owners from hiring then the Illegal Aliens will not Stay and return to their native Countries. This ISSUE is not about RACE, but Governments Federal/State/LOCA L not doing their jobs, because big and small business owners want cheap workers and no labor laws to bother with. Its called GREED! Both Liberals and Conservatives need to take some pride in our Country and protect it from all invading nations citizens and corporate GREED. Please, NO IMMIGRANT BASHING or HATE Crimes. HATE only feeds the single RACE agenda groups for Open Borders and the Media."

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By: McMorty @ 12/23/2008, 7:30 AM

Yamin, I may see your point. So what you are saying is that if each of the 20 million illegal aliens were to pay 1 million dollars each to be a U.S. citizen then we might have a better economy. That might work, but if they can't pay then they leave OK.

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By: Yamin @ 12/23/2008, 1:50 AM

Ok Deleware Bob. i don't think you understood the point here. Its very easy to see how immigration can be bad for the economy if you look at all the bad things. Think of how much money American business save every year by hiring illegal immigrants and paying them way under minimum wage with no benefits. Think about how much money you would get if 10 million illegal immigrants paid 1000 dollars fine just to have a chance to get citizenship, please do the math and consider it.

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By: Delaware Bob @ 12/22/2008, 11:09 PM

UTAH, I urge you to get your State Illegal Immigration Law passed...and enforced! It's the very best thing you can do for your State and the very best thing you can do for America.

I can't say the ILLEGAL ALIENS are completely to blame for the shape of our economy, but they are a BIG part of the problem. The ILLEGAL ALIENS send BILLIONS upon BILLIONS out of this Country every year, money we will NEVER see again. Does this help our economy? How about the BILLIONS the American taxpayers fork out for the ANCHOR BABIES, the schooling of them, the medical care and the list goes on, and on, and on.

How about the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS paid to jail ILLEGAL ALIENS for the crimes, then the cost to deport them. Does this help our economy? I believe it is time for all 50 States to pass a State law, like Arizona, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina and a few others. It is time for these ILLEGAL ALIENS to go back to their home Country...PRONTO!

NO ILLEGAL ALIEN HAS A RIGHT TO BE IN THIS COUNRTY FOR ANY REASON! CLEAR ENOUGH?

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By: Blue Lou @ 12/22/2008, 5:31 PM

Wow. I see that you guys are really in the Christmas Spirit; full of brotherly love and compasion for your fellow man.

Ebenezer's got nothing on you lot.

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By: Shooter973 @ 12/22/2008, 5:07 PM

Trust in your leaders!!! Our Gov. John Silver Spoon will not let any meaningful "anti" illegal laws be enacted.
He's already turned his stand on this issue from support to against....Now that the election is past.

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By: Robert Wren @ 12/22/2008, 3:35 PM

The evidence cited is germane as there has been only a few studies IN and about Utah. However, please refer to the Legislative Audiit on School Costs and the UofU (Mexican Consulkate sposored) studies. BTW, CA budget deficit is $42billion and, yes, we need mre budget cuts because OUR budget is getting more out of balance.

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By: Ron Heckman @ 12/22/2008, 12:03 PM

Mr. Mosnon’s comment describing persons who flagrantly flaunt U. S. law by entering the United States illegally are “law abiding” is absolutely the pinnacle of ludicrousness.

It is obvious he has been completely duped by the Standard Examiner's policy of rarely reporting the abundent crimes commited by the swarm of illegals in Ogden and throughout Utah.

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By: Realist @ 12/22/2008, 12:03 PM

ILLEGAL immigrant is the word of the day here.
ILLEGAL: not according to or authorized by law.

With the economy in the shape it is in do we really need these people here sucking up our tax dollars and sending their own UNTAXED PAY back to mexico?
Pay decent wages for farm work,raise the price at the market to support it, and you can actually find CITIZENS that will pick cherrys.

Enough is enough.

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By: JR @ 12/22/2008, 11:54 AM

NO they are not like other Utahns: They are in this country breaking federal law.

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By: Derek Monson @ 12/22/2008, 10:55 AM

Mr. Wren, the evidence you cite has great applicability to Colorado, Texas, and Arizona...unfortunately, you are in Utah.

Illegal immigrants in Utah tend to be just like other Utahns: family oriented, hard working, and law abiding once they arrive in the state. This is according to census data. While it may be interesting that such is not the case in other states, we should not craft policy in Utah based on other states' experiences.

To put it another way, using evidence in other states as the basis for our immigration law is similar to arguing that we should consider more drastic budget cuts because California's budget shortfall has grown to over $20 billion. In either case, it is bad reasoning.

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