OGDEN -- The chatter of little voices drowns out Cory and Kasey Wardell as they try to describe their life with five children under the age of 5.
Twins Taya and Gage, 4, chase each other around the couch as twins Peyton and Haylee, 3, laugh and try to catch them. Alexis, 2, climbs on her mother's lap, then quickly jumps off to join her siblings in a romp around the living room.
"You can't control them," Cory says calmly.
When Kasey was young, she didn't want any children. Cory wanted eight. So they compromised and decided on four. They planned on waiting to start their family, but two months into their marriage Kasey learned she was pregnant with twins.
"I was excited, I thought it would be fun," she says. "I was scared of course, but it was still fun."
The first two were the hardest.
"It was an eye-opener," Cory says.
Kasey established a firm routine and felt she was getting a handle on motherhood. Then she started to get sick again.
Within three months of delivering Gage and Taya, the Wardells discovered they were pregnant with twins again.
Cory recalls sitting in the doctor's office in shock as he held Gage and Taya in his arms.
"I was kind of upset," Kasey says, "but that only lasted a month or two, and then I got really excited."
For the first month and a half after Peyton and Haylee were born, family members came to Utah to help the Wardells manage having four children under the age of 1. Then Kasey realized that she would never learn how to manage on her own with so much help.
"I was like, I need you all, I appreciate you all, but I need you to go so I can learn how to do it," she says.
The Wardells did what they needed to do to get by.
"We were already making bottles and changing diapers, so it wasn't much of a change," Kasey says.
Kasey became the queen of routine. She quickly established a schedule so that bottles, naps, and bedtimes were always at the same time. The chaos became more controlled.
Then, a little more than a year after the birth of Peyton and Haylee, the Wardells welcomed Alexis into their family.
Having another child felt like starting over, but as soon as she saw Alexis, Kasey knew it was going to be OK.
"For the first two months we had all five kids in diapers," she says. "It was expensive!"
But the expenses aren't the hardest part.
"It's hard, when you have lots of kids, to pay attention to each one," Kasey says. "Sometimes they feel left out."
Kasey wants to be able to always drop what she's doing to give each child the attention they crave, but sometimes she's changing a diaper or feeding a child or kissing a knee, and she has to say just a minute.
"That's really hard for me," she says.
It's never easy to gather all of the children and go places.
"You'd think by now we would know how long it takes to get everyone ready to go and get out the door," Kasey says.
And yet, they still do it, in spite of being late ... or being stared at.
"We get stopped at least two times every time we're out," Cory says.
All in all, the Wardells wouldn't change having their kids so close together. It's all they know, and to them it's the easier way.
"The people who have their kids three years or six years apart, I think that's amazing," Kasey says as a child starts screaming from a distant bedroom.
"That's Alexis," she says, and with that she heads down the hall, ready to be a mother.