The Standard-Examiner requested all email correspondence between the North Ogden mayor, city council and staff members, between Jan. 12-Jan. 30, regarding the subject of employee benefits.
These emails are presented as received from the city, may include duplicate messages and are not necessarily in chronological order.
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From: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
To: "rtrotter16@yahoo.com" <rtrotter16@yahoo.com>
Cc: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>; Dave Carlson <DCarlson@nogden.org>; Cheryl Stoker <CStoker@nogden.org>; David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>; Justin Fawson <JFawson@nogden.org>; Kent Bailey <KBailey@nogden.org>; Richard Harris <rharris@nogden.org>; Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: GRAMMA request
S. Annette Spendlove, MMC
City Recorder/HR Director
505 E. 2600 N.
North Ogden, UT 84414
801-737-9830 desk
801-430-2928 cell
801-737-2219 fax
I have not sent her that email. She has still not come in (or emailed Annette) for a GRAMA request as she mentioned was her intention last week after the meeting.
The email address I have for her is rtrotter16@yahoo.com
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
--Original Message
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Ed Dickie; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
Hey I used to call it a Granma request so give me a break.. :-)
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
-- Original message
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Subject: RE: Agenda items
From: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>,Cheryl Stoker <CStoker@nogden.org>,David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>,Justin Fawson <JFawson@nogden.org>,Kent Bailey <KBailey@nogden.org>,Richard Harris <rharris@nogden.org>,Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
CC:
They are GRAMA (Government Records Access Management Act) requests.
As I asked in the last City Council meeting. When you request something to be put on the agenda, please send the information that you want on the agenda and an explanation of what you are considering and recommending to the Mayor and City Council Members, in memo form or send me exactly what you want me to put in the memo and I will prepare the memo. Then I will need to know the information that you want staff to prepare to support the discussion. If it is an ordinance or resolution that you are amending, I will send you a copy of the most recent ordinance or resolution and you can let me know what you want added or stricken or both and I will prepare the amendments as needed. This way there is a clear understanding of what you want and what is prepared. I will clarify to the requester what I intend to put on the agenda and the information that will be in the packet for the particular item you have requested. There shouldn't be any problem if we stick to this but, if you see that the agenda item isn't what you wanted, or you changed your mind, please let me know right away, so that I can amend the agenda. I can amend the agenda up to 24 hours before the meeting. If you have any questions please contact me.
Thanks,
Annette
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:16 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
They are GRAMA (Government Records Access Management Act) requests.
As I asked in the last City Council meeting. When you request something to be put on the agenda, please send the information that you want on the agenda and an explanation of what you are considering and recommending to the Mayor and City Council Members, in memo form or send me exactly what you want me to put in the memo and I will prepare the memo. Then I will need to know the information that you want staff to prepare to support the discussion. If it is an ordinance or resolution that you are amending, I will send you a copy of the most recent ordinance or resolution and you can let me know what you want added or stricken or both and I will prepare the amendments as needed. This way there is a clear understanding of what you want and what is prepared. I will clarify to the requester what I intend to put on the agenda and the information that will be in the packet for the particular item you have requested. There shouldn't be any problem if we stick to this but, if you see that the agenda item isn't what you wanted, or you changed your mind, please let me know right away, so that I can amend the agenda. I can amend the agenda up to 24 hours before the meeting. If you have any questions please contact me.
Thanks,
Annette
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:16 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
I will let you know if she does. I asked her to please let it go and I am hopeful that is the case.
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
-- Original message
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Subject: RE: Agenda items
From: Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>
CC:
Ed, As soon as her request is granted, I would like an email sent to all of us notifying us. She will see that I did not word it as Annette did. I used the word, "benefits" (plural). On the agenda, a member of your staff took the liberty to change the wording of my request. It got turned into medical and dental "premiums". I did request the amount of savings for one part of the issue. We always say "discuss and vote. We discussed staff benefits and we voted. I never said we were voting to change the premium percentage. That is the wording your staff member decided to put on the agenda. A year ago I requested a committee of expert residents be formed to look at the entire compensation package. So my request was no different than last year in our budget mtg. If Rachel does another negative story on this, we may need to hold a closed mtg to discuss council expectations of staff so we can move forward in a positive manner.
Even though it has not been sent to her, I still want Rachel's email asap.
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:04 PM
To: Wade Bigler
Subject: RE: Agenda items
I have not. Annette said she has not come in yet to request one.
l am at the leagues policy meeting at the capitol, when I get back I will send you her email. I will also ask Annette if she came in while we were here.
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
-- Original message
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Subject: RE: Agenda items
From: Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>,Cheryl Stoker <CStoker@nogden.org>,David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>,Justin Fawson <JFawson@nogden.org>,Kent Bailey <KBailey@nogden.org>,Richard Harris <rharris@nogden.org>
CC: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
I have not sent her that email. She has still not come in (or emailed Annette) for a GRAMA request as she mentioned was her intention last week after the meeting.
The email address I have for her is rtrotter16@yahoo.com
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
--Original Message
--
From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Ed Dickie; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
I have not. Annette said she has not come in yet to request one.
l am at the leagues policy meeting at the capitol, when I get back I will send you her email. I will also ask Annette if she came in while we were here.
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
-- Original message
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Subject: RE: Agenda items
From: Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>,Cheryl Stoker <CStoker@nogden.org>,David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>,Justin Fawson <JFawson@nogden.org>,Kent Bailey <KBailey@nogden.org>,Richard Harris <rharris@nogden.org>
CC: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
They are GRAMA (Government Records Access Management Act) requests.
As I asked in the last City Council meeting. When you request something to be put on the agenda, please send the information that you want on the agenda and an explanation of what you are considering and recommending to the Mayor and City Council Members, in memo form or send me exactly what you want me to put in the memo and I will prepare the memo. Then I will need to know the information that you want staff to prepare to support the discussion. If it is an ordinance or resolution that you are amending, I will send you a copy of the most recent ordinance or resolution and you can let me know what you want added or stricken or both and I will prepare the amendments as needed. This way there is a clear understanding of what you want and what is prepared. I will clarify to the requester what I intend to put on the agenda and the information that will be in the packet for the particular item you have requested. There shouldn't be any problem if we stick to this but, if you see that the agenda item isn't what you wanted, or you changed your mind, please let me know right away, so that I can amend the agenda. I can amend the agenda up to 24 hours before the meeting. If you have any questions please contact me.
Thanks,
Annette
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:16 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
Thank you Ed.
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:33 PM
To: Wade Bigler; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
I have not sent her that email. She has still not come in (or emailed Annette) for a GRAMA request as she mentioned was her intention last week after the meeting.
The email address I have for her is rtrotter16@yahoo.com
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
--Original Message
--
From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Ed Dickie; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
Ed, As soon as her request is granted, I would like an email sent to all of us notifying us. She will see that I did not word it as Annette did. I used the word, "benefits" (plural). On the agenda, a member of your staff took the liberty to change the wording of my request. It got turned into medical and dental "premiums". I did request the amount of savings for one part of the issue. We always say "discuss and vote. We discussed staff benefits and we voted. I never said we were voting to change the premium percentage. That is the wording your staff member decided to put on the agenda. A year ago I requested a committee of expert residents be formed to look at the entire compensation package. So my request was no different than last year in our budget mtg. If Rachel does another negative story on this, we may need to hold a closed mtg to discuss council expectations of staff so we can move forward in a positive manner.
Even though it has not been sent to her, I still want Rachel's email asap.
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:04 PM
To: Wade Bigler
Subject: RE: Agenda items
I have not. Annette said she has not come in yet to request one.
l am at the leagues policy meeting at the capitol, when I get back I will send you her email. I will also ask Annette if she came in while we were here.
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
-- Original message
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Subject: RE: Agenda items
From: Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>,Cheryl Stoker <CStoker@nogden.org>,David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>,Justin Fawson <JFawson@nogden.org>,Kent Bailey <KBailey@nogden.org>,Richard Harris <rharris@nogden.org>
CC: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
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