The Standard-Examiner requested all email correspondence between the North Ogden mayor, city council and staff members, between Jan. 12-Jan. 30, regarding the subject of employee benefits.
These emails are presented as received from the city, may include duplicate messages and are not necessarily in chronological order.
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From: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
To: "rtrotter16@yahoo.com" <rtrotter16@yahoo.com>
Cc: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>; Dave Carlson <DCarlson@nogden.org>; Cheryl Stoker <CStoker@nogden.org>; David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>; Justin Fawson <JFawson@nogden.org>; Kent Bailey <KBailey@nogden.org>; Richard Harris <rharris@nogden.org>; Wade Bigler <wbigler@nogden.org>
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 2:29 PM
Subject: GRAMA request
S. Annette Spendlove, MMC
City Recorder/HR Director
505 E. 2600 N.
North Ogden, UT 84414
801-737-9830 desk
801-430-2928 cell
801-737-2219 fax
We can do that.
Thanks,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:51 AM
To: Richard Harris; Kent Bailey; Justin Fawson; David Hulme; Cheryl Stoker
Cc: Ed Dickie
Subject: Council mtg agenda
I would like the following items on the next council mtg agenda, Jan. 24.
1. City employee medical benefits: discuss and vote.
I would like for Debbie to send via email to council how much savings there would be for the next 12 months to lower city employee medical benefits from 90%, to 80% and 70%. Please send these two numbers to council in the packet.
2. Discuss and vote to alter city procedure that currently only allows two council members to serve on a committee. Vote to allow any council member to serve on a committee that desires to do so.
3. Discuss disproportionate fees for businesses.
4. Discuss an awning issue that residents Mr. & Mrs. DeLasilva have. Allow Mr. DeLasilva to explain his dilemma.
Thanks,
Wade
I've spoken with the mayor about this. We are in compliance.
You might be interested in a Standard Examiner article in I believe yesterday's newspaper. It gave thumbs up or down to several things. One thumbs down was to cities having a couple of city council members serve on committees, rather than allowing a quorum to be present. It says that if a quorum is allowed to be present then it ensures compliance with the Open & Public Meetings Act. I agree.
Wade
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From: David Hulme
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:07 AM
To: Ed Dickie; Wade Bigler; Richard Harris; Kent Bailey; Justin Fawson; Cheryl Stoker
Subject: RE: Council mtg agenda
As part of the discussion on committees, I would appreciate it if staff would come prepared to advise us on the Utah Open & Public Meetings Act and if there is anything we need to do to comply with that if we have three or more council people on a committee--are we in compliance just for noticing and holding open meetings of that committee, or do we need to advertise that it's now a City Council meeting; would we need to only have two that are voting members and the others in an advisory capacity only; is there a list of things that if we keep committee business to that we will still be in compliance, etc. I've been reading it (http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE52/52_04.htm) and none of those questions are clear to me.
thanks,
Dave Hulme
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From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:59 AM
To: Wade Bigler; Richard Harris; Kent Bailey; Justin Fawson; David Hulme; Cheryl Stoker
Subject: RE: Council mtg agenda
We can do that.
Thanks,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
--Original Message
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:51 AM
To: Richard Harris; Kent Bailey; Justin Fawson; David Hulme; Cheryl Stoker
Cc: Ed Dickie
Subject: Council mtg agenda
I would like the following items on the next council mtg agenda, Jan. 24.
1. City employee medical benefits: discuss and vote.
I would like for Debbie to send via email to council how much savings there would be for the next 12 months to lower city employee medical benefits from 90%, to 80% and 70%. Please send these two numbers to council in the packet.
2. Discuss and vote to alter city procedure that currently only allows two council members to serve on a committee. Vote to allow any council member to serve on a committee that desires to do so.
3. Discuss disproportionate fees for businesses.
4. Discuss an awning issue that residents Mr. & Mrs. DeLasilva have. Allow Mr. DeLasilva to explain his dilemma.
Thanks,
Wade
So I guess my question to you is if you have a problem with me bringing it up during the discussion.
dave
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:08 PM
To: David Hulme
Subject: RE: Ed's update to Council 012012
I have not seen, but I know they have acces to what is on the agenda.
I think some feel I an not fighting for them hard enough. This is why I made the comment that I am left to deal with the decision not council.
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Subject: RE: Ed's update to Council 012012
From: David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>
CC:
Got a letter in the mail today, supposedly from a city employee, talking about the insurance rates. They asked for us to read it at the meeting. But I have no intention of doing that without talking to you first and asking how I should handle it. Please advise! I'd be happy to get you a copy if you haven't seen it.
dave
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:46 PM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Brent Taylor
Subject: Ed's update to Council 012012
Have a great weekend!
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
So I guess my question to you is if you have a problem with me bringing it up during the discussion.
dave
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:08 PM
To: David Hulme
Subject: RE: Ed's update to Council 012012
I have not seen, but I know they have acces to what is on the agenda.
I think some feel I an not fighting for them hard enough. This is why I made the comment that I am left to deal with the decision not council.
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
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Subject: RE: Ed's update to Council 012012
From: David Hulme <DHulme@nogden.org>
To: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>
CC:
Got a letter in the mail today, supposedly from a city employee, talking about the insurance rates. They asked for us to read it at the meeting. But I have no intention of doing that without talking to you first and asking how I should handle it. Please advise! I'd be happy to get you a copy if you haven't seen it.
dave
From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:46 PM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Brent Taylor
Subject: Ed's update to Council 012012
Have a great weekend!
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
Dave is the only council member who has responded thus far. I will let you know. Annette
T-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network
-- Original message
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Subject: FW: Agenda items
From: Ed Dickie <edickie@nogden.org>
To: Annette Spendlove <aspend@nogden.org>
CC:
Last one
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
--Original Message
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:31 PM
To: Ed Dickie; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
Thank you Ed.
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From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:33 PM
To: Wade Bigler; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
I have not sent her that email. She has still not come in (or emailed Annette) for a GRAMA request as she mentioned was her intention last week after the meeting.
The email address I have for her is rtrotter16@yahoo.com
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
--Original Message
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM
To: Ed Dickie; Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: RE: Agenda items
Have you given Rachel the email from her GRAMA request? Please send me Rachel's email.
Wade
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From: Ed Dickie
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Cheryl Stoker; David Hulme; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; Richard Harris; Wade Bigler
Cc: Annette Spendlove
Subject: Agenda items
The Standard Examiner called me yesterday and told me they are going to be coming in to get a Grammar Request regarding the email from councilman Bigler asking for a an item to be placed on the agenda regarding employee benefits. She talked to me before the meeting on Tuesday and then again after and I told her to please refrain from doing a story about this as we have had enough controversy in our city and don't need anymore. She was okay with that, but when her editor learned about how many employees showed up to the meeting he directed her to do the story. I declined to give the email from councilman Bigler which is why she is coming to ask for a Grammar Request.
Anyway, in the future please send a memo along with your request stating exactly how you want the agenda item to be worded along with a description of what it is you want to discuss. If you need staff input please let us know what you need from the staff as soon as possible.
Respectfully,
Ed
Edward Dickie
City Manager
North Ogden City
Office: 801-737-2200
Cell: 801-940-1890
I've just sent you all the e-mails I sent to the mayor, council, Ed, Debbie, etc. on the subject. I haven't received any e-mails on the subject other than from those individuals, so do you need me to find all those or will they be coming through as part of your request already? Let me know and I'll try to track them down if I need to.
thanks,
dave
From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:59 PM
To: CCM; Ed Dickie
Subject: FW: GRAMA request
I need any correspondence(emails) related to this item up to now (includes before and after the meeting), so I can get this to the requester. Please email your documents to me.
Sincerely,
Annette
From: Trotter [mailto:rtrotter16@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:47 PM
To: Annette Spendlove
Subject: GRAMA request
Hello Annette,
I would like to make a GRAMA request for any e-mails/correspondence between city council, staff and mayor regarding agenda item number 7 regarding employee benefits from the January 24 city council meeting. Thanks,
Rachel Trotter
Standard-Examiner correspondent
801-941-2904
I left out one thing, you also asked for every council members email from January 17 thru January 31, 2012.
Annette
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From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:55 PM
To: Wade Bigler; Ed Dickie; Richard Harris; Cheryl Stoker; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; David Hulme
Subject: RE: GRAMA request
Let me make sure I understand your request. You are asking for all city email from me, Ed, Debbie, Mayor Harris from Jan 17, 2012 thru Jan 31, 2012 and all emails sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to me, Ed, Debbie, Mayor Harris, Brent Taylor between from January 17, 2012 thru January 31, 2012.
Annette
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:48 PM
To: Annette Spendlove; Ed Dickie; Richard Harris
Subject: RE: GRAMA request
I also make a GRAMA request for every email sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to Annette Spendlove, Ed Dickie, Debbie Cardenas, mayor Richard Harris, and every council member including Brent Taylor since he is listed on the council member email list. Also including every email that includes her name.
Include the following dates:
Beginning Tuesday, January 17- the end of today, Tuesday, January 31.
Wade
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From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:59 PM
To: CCM; Ed Dickie
Subject: FW: GRAMA request
I need any correspondence(emails) related to this item up to now (includes before and after the meeting), so I can get this to the requester. Please email your documents to me.
Sincerely,
Annette
From: Trotter [mailto:rtrotter16@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:47 PM
To: Annette Spendlove
Subject: GRAMA request
Hello Annette,
I would like to make a GRAMA request for any e-mails/correspondence between city council, staff and mayor regarding agenda item number 7 regarding employee benefits from the January 24 city council meeting. Thanks,
Rachel Trotter
Standard-Examiner correspondent
801-941-2904
I left out one thing, you also asked for every council members email from January 17 thru January 31, 2012.
Annette
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From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:55 PM
To: Wade Bigler; Ed Dickie; Richard Harris; Cheryl Stoker; Justin Fawson; Kent Bailey; David Hulme
Subject: RE: GRAMA request
Let me make sure I understand your request. You are asking for all city email from me, Ed, Debbie, Mayor Harris from Jan 17, 2012 thru Jan 31, 2012 and all emails sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to me, Ed, Debbie, Mayor Harris, Brent Taylor between from January 17, 2012 thru January 31, 2012.
Annette
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:48 PM
To: Annette Spendlove; Ed Dickie; Richard Harris
Subject: RE: GRAMA request
I also make a GRAMA request for every email sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to Annette Spendlove, Ed Dickie, Debbie Cardenas, mayor Richard Harris, and every council member including Brent Taylor since he is listed on the council member email list. Also including every email that includes her name.
Include the following dates:
Beginning Tuesday, January 17- the end of today, Tuesday, January 31.
Wade
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From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:59 PM
To: CCM; Ed Dickie
Subject: FW: GRAMA request
I need any correspondence(emails) related to this item up to now (includes before and after the meeting), so I can get this to the requester. Please email your documents to me.
Sincerely,
Annette
From: Trotter [mailto:rtrotter16@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:47 PM
To: Annette Spendlove
Subject: GRAMA request
Hello Annette,
I would like to make a GRAMA request for any e-mails/correspondence between city council, staff and mayor regarding agenda item number 7 regarding employee benefits from the January 24 city council meeting. Thanks,
Rachel Trotter
Standard-Examiner correspondent
801-941-2904
Let me make sure I understand your request. You are asking for all city email from me, Ed, Debbie, Mayor Harris from Jan 17, 2012 thru Jan 31, 2012 and all emails sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to me, Ed, Debbie, Mayor Harris, Brent Taylor between from January 17, 2012 thru January 31, 2012.
Annette
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From: Wade Bigler
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:48 PM
To: Annette Spendlove; Ed Dickie; Richard Harris
Subject: RE: GRAMA request
I also make a GRAMA request for every email sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to Annette Spendlove, Ed Dickie, Debbie Cardenas, mayor Richard Harris, and every council member including Brent Taylor since he is listed on the council member email list. Also including every email that includes her name.
Include the following dates:
Beginning Tuesday, January 17- the end of today, Tuesday, January 31.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:59 PM
To: CCM; Ed Dickie
Subject: FW: GRAMA request
I need any correspondence(emails) related to this item up to now (includes before and after the meeting), so I can get this to the requester. Please email your documents to me.
Sincerely,
Annette
From: Trotter [mailto:rtrotter16@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:47 PM
To: Annette Spendlove
Subject: GRAMA request
Hello Annette,
I would like to make a GRAMA request for any e-mails/correspondence between city council, staff and mayor regarding agenda item number 7 regarding employee benefits from the January 24 city council meeting. Thanks,
Rachel Trotter
Standard-Examiner correspondent
801-941-2904
I also make a GRAMA request for every email sent from or to Rachel Trotter from or to Annette Spendlove, Ed Dickie, Debbie Cardenas, mayor Richard Harris, and every council member including Brent Taylor since he is listed on the council member email list. Also including every email that includes her name.
Include the following dates:
Beginning Tuesday, January 17- the end of today, Tuesday, January 31.
Wade
________________________________________
From: Annette Spendlove
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:59 PM
To: CCM; Ed Dickie
Subject: FW: GRAMA request
I need any correspondence(emails) related to this item up to now (includes before and after the meeting), so I can get this to the requester. Please email your documents to me.
Sincerely,
Annette
From: Trotter [mailto:rtrotter16@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:47 PM
To: Annette Spendlove
Subject: GRAMA request
Hello Annette,
I would like to make a GRAMA request for any e-mails/correspondence between city council, staff and mayor regarding agenda item number 7 regarding employee benefits from the January 24 city council meeting. Thanks,
Rachel Trotter
Standard-Examiner correspondent
801-941-2904
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