RIVERDALE -- It may have been 10 degrees outside, but that didn't stop the heartiest of shoppers from ushering in Black Friday in the usual fashion -- waiting in line all night for big discounts.
By the time Target opened at 4 a.m., the line snaked across the front, down the side and from end to end behind the Riverdale Road store.
Some of the first people in line had the profit motive in mind in addition to scrambling for merchandise.
Having stood in line since 7 p.m. Thursday, they held up a sign advertising four seats for sale. A group of young adult men in line 100 people back said they had heard that at least one of those seats was sold for $40.
"We got lucky," said Mike Burger, 19, of Ogden, and his friends, who stood behind 100 other shoppers, hoping to buy TVs and Xboxes.
Burger and his friends said when they got in line at 11 p.m. Thursday, they were already behind people who mostly had stood there for hours.
They said immediately from that time, the line doubled in size and began a steady growth.
But they weren't showing their excitement at 2:30 a.m. as they shivered in line.
"It's gotten colder and colder," Burger said.
But in area Walmart stores, thousands of day-after-Thanksgiving shoppers gave up a full night of sleep Thursday to begin their holiday shopping just one minute after midnight.
That's when they were allowed to pick from piles of merchandise that was to be covered by black plastic until one minute into the day.
"It was some of the craziest shopping I've ever seen," said Susan Hall, of Hooper, who shopped at the Syracuse Walmart.
"I haven't experienced anything like that in a very long time."
Hall said she was pinned in next to Blue-ray and DVD movies for about 15 minutes while a fury of shoppers threw the disks back and forth to people who shouted out the titles of movies for which they were shopping.
One woman tried to move her cart away from the furor but was unsuccessful -- people could not move because of pressure from the crowd behind them.
The Riverdale Target store parking lot was filled by 2:30 a.m., including spaces normally reserved for surrounding stores.
At the center of the crammed parking lot was a large camping trailer where a group of frozen shoppers at the front of the line could take turns going inside for warmth.
At 3 a.m., the line around the store had grown to half the size it would become just one hour later.
At that time, Donnovan Dolato, of Sandy, feared he would not get the items for which he had come.
"I'm kind of worried. I heard a guy talking about the hard drive I want 200 to 300 people up the line."
McKayla Amundsen, 17, of Ogden, said she didn't mind being behind the store when the doors opened at Target.
"Keep an open mind," she said of her shopping style. "Then you don't have to be disappointed."
Amundsen was there with two friends following a time-tested tradition, she said.
"We start here and work our way through Riverdale and to the mall," she said.
Managers at Recreation Outlet in Ogden had expected people to burst through the doors at 6 a.m., but shoppers largely waited in their vehicles for the doors to open.
Only four people were at the front of the store at the moment the clock struck 6.
But the store quickly filled as a steady stream of people filed in.
Recreation Outlet is one of several Ogden stores that promoted the downtown area as a Black Friday destination this year for the first time in decades.
Ads in the Standard-Examiner and on the radio invited serious shoppers to take the new trolley and make a loop through Ogden's downtown, exploring a handful of brand-new stores as well as existing establishments in The Junction, along Washington Boulevard and on 25th Street.
The ads also noted the entertainment options such as bowling and watching movies, which are located right next to the stores, for shoppers and their families.
Holmes Clothing on 25th Street chose Friday as its opening day, enticing serious men's fashion shoppers with a new suit giveaway for those first in the doors.
"There are a lot of new stores opening up for the holiday season," said Kami Geiger, of the Ogden business development office.
"It's all new, and it's all here in downtown Ogden."