Gene Mingo, the first black placekicker in the NFL or AFL, would rather describe how the 1960 Denver Broncos sometimes stayed in separate hotels because of segregation, or how he honed his football skills playing in the service while in the Navy after not attending college.
He'll complain that he hasn't been recognized sufficiently by the Broncos or the AFL, but recounts that longtime Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt spotted him before a Broncos game one time and told his sons, "This man helped save the American Football League."
He openly talks about a drug addiction in the 1980s after many surgeries, and how it led to him accidentally shooting and almost killing his wife (who he is still with, and has been for 38 years). And how that led to his religious awakening, getting his GED high-school equivalency degree at age 50 and becoming a drug and alcohol counselor.
Last Sunday, Mingo received a bit of the recognition he has craved from the Broncos. He and Gino Cappelletti, the Patriots' radio broadcaster and another participant in the first game in AFL history, were honorary captains, wearing the same throwback jerseys as the players.
Mingo played five seasons and many different positions for Denver, led the AFL in scoring twice and still is in the Broncos' record book, including for longest run (82 yards) in team history.
"He's a very, very significant part of Denver Broncos history," said team spokesman Jim Saccomano, who asked Mingo if he would be an honorary captain Sunday.
On Mingo's worst day, Sept. 10, 1986, such an honor was inconceivable. Mingo was battling a cocaine addiction. He was paranoid that drug dealers were coming to get him, and he discharged a gun when the family dog jumped at him. The bullet hit his wife and is still lodged in her back 23 years later. She was in critical condition for a few days, but survived.
Mingo said while he was in jail, he had a vision of family members, including his mother and father, telling him everything would be OK. He saw another vision, which he said was a long-haired figure with a white robe.
"I believe I looked in the face of God," Mingo said. "That's what I live with today."
Mingo became a Level III Certified Addiction Counselor, the highest level for that position, and worked at a treatment center in Parker before retiring in 1999. Retirement is just as busy. He leads interventions for addicts. He said he has been called 200 times and can't remember more than four who didn't go to treatment. Mingo thinks his honesty connects with people.
"I'm tired of people destroying their lives with drugs and alcohol," Mingo said. "I've learned so much in life. I try to share to get them to not make the same mistakes."
When Mingo is out at the grocery store, a sporting event or during even a recent trip to the doctor's office, he'll get recognized. Not for his playing days, but by people whom he affected. He said he'll get a tap on the shoulder, and the person will tell him he helped save their life.
"It really makes you feel good," Mingo said.